Comments on: Five reasons that prevent my ’school’ from adopting Open Source: (from a non-western perspective) http://alternativenayk.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/five-reasons-that-prevent-my-school-from-adopting-open-source-from-a-non-western-perspective/ Unless we explore, experiment and discover, we will only be following the crowd. Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:11:10 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://alternativenayk.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/five-reasons-that-prevent-my-school-from-adopting-open-source-from-a-non-western-perspective/#comment-6918 Anonymous Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:15:37 +0000 http://alternativenayk.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/five-reasons-that-prevent-my-school-from-adopting-open-source-from-a-non-western-perspective/#comment-6918 salam salam

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]]> By: Running from Open Source: or how my ’school’ is avoiding Open Office implementation « Tryst with Linux and other Alternatives http://alternativenayk.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/five-reasons-that-prevent-my-school-from-adopting-open-source-from-a-non-western-perspective/#comment-3400 Running from Open Source: or how my ’school’ is avoiding Open Office implementation « Tryst with Linux and other Alternatives Sat, 07 Jul 2007 00:40:43 +0000 http://alternativenayk.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/five-reasons-that-prevent-my-school-from-adopting-open-source-from-a-non-western-perspective/#comment-3400 [...] while back I wrote about why my school would not adopt open source. (Post is found here) At that time, I did not have any influence in our IT affairs. Only in the past month I’ve [...] [...] while back I wrote about why my school would not adopt open source. (Post is found here) At that time, I did not have any influence in our IT affairs. Only in the past month I’ve [...]

]]> By: Jose http://alternativenayk.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/five-reasons-that-prevent-my-school-from-adopting-open-source-from-a-non-western-perspective/#comment-3130 Jose Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:49:01 +0000 http://alternativenayk.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/five-reasons-that-prevent-my-school-from-adopting-open-source-from-a-non-western-perspective/#comment-3130 >> In fact, one deterrent for resisting the implementation of Linux in student computer labs is that, according to these IT-guys, the Windows server does not (cannot?) recognise which site a student on a Linux computer is browsing. I don't know if that's true or not, but in a school situation where internet monitoring is important, such arguments are clinchers. Keep in mind that Linux is much better suited to the network than Windows [faster, more tools, etc]. The links that follow are solutions people have put together, but other solutions as well as the ability to do the setups by yourself (homebrew) have existed for a long time... I am trying to say that it is not a good idea to discount Linux because you are not *currently* aware of a solution to some problem.. especially if it involves network computing. I could be mistaken, but I think this screenshot shows that for which you were looking (spying on people) http://italc.sourceforge.net/screenshots/italc-1.0.0_01.jpg . I came to that website via this article: http://education.zdnet.com/?p=1079 . >> In fact, one deterrent for resisting the implementation of Linux in student computer labs is that, according to these IT-guys, the Windows server does not (cannot?) recognise which site a student on a Linux computer is browsing. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but in a school situation where internet monitoring is important, such arguments are clinchers.

Keep in mind that Linux is much better suited to the network than Windows [faster, more tools, etc]. The links that follow are solutions people have put together, but other solutions as well as the ability to do the setups by yourself (homebrew) have existed for a long time… I am trying to say that it is not a good idea to discount Linux because you are not *currently* aware of a solution to some problem.. especially if it involves network computing.

I could be mistaken, but I think this screenshot shows that for which you were looking (spying on people) http://italc.sourceforge.net/screenshots/italc-1.0.0_01.jpg . I came to that website via this article: http://education.zdnet.com/?p=1079 .

]]> By: Jose http://alternativenayk.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/five-reasons-that-prevent-my-school-from-adopting-open-source-from-a-non-western-perspective/#comment-3129 Jose Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:47:56 +0000 http://alternativenayk.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/five-reasons-that-prevent-my-school-from-adopting-open-source-from-a-non-western-perspective/#comment-3129 >> In fact, one deterrent for resisting the implementation of Linux in student computer labs is that, according to these IT-guys, the Windows server does not (cannot?) recognise which site a student on a Linux computer is browsing. I don't know if that's true or not, but in a school situation where internet monitoring is important, such arguments are clinchers. Keep in mind that Linux is much better suited to the network than Windows [faster, more tools, etc]. The links that follow are solutions people have put together, but other solutions as well as the ability to do the setups by yourself (homebrew) have existed for a long time... I am trying to say that it is not a good idea to discount Linux because you are not *currently* aware of a solution to some problem.. especially if it involves network computing. I could be mistaken, but I think this screenshot shows that for which you were looking (spying on people) http://italc.sourceforge.net/screenshots/italc-1.0.0_01.jpg . I came to that website via this article: http://education.zdnet.com/?p=1079 . http://www.distrowatch.com/ http://www.ltsp.org/ Also consider using debian. See this too: http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2007053000626RVDBSS . The article demonstrates a debian installation, and the comments point out some gotchas. >> In fact, one deterrent for resisting the implementation of Linux in student computer labs is that, according to these IT-guys, the Windows server does not (cannot?) recognise which site a student on a Linux computer is browsing. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but in a school situation where internet monitoring is important, such arguments are clinchers.

Keep in mind that Linux is much better suited to the network than Windows [faster, more tools, etc]. The links that follow are solutions people have put together, but other solutions as well as the ability to do the setups by yourself (homebrew) have existed for a long time… I am trying to say that it is not a good idea to discount Linux because you are not *currently* aware of a solution to some problem.. especially if it involves network computing.

I could be mistaken, but I think this screenshot shows that for which you were looking (spying on people) http://italc.sourceforge.net/screenshots/italc-1.0.0_01.jpg . I came to that website via this article: http://education.zdnet.com/?p=1079 .

http://www.distrowatch.com/
http://www.ltsp.org/

Also consider using debian. See this too: http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2007053000626RVDBSS . The article demonstrates a debian installation, and the comments point out some gotchas.

]]> By: Jose http://alternativenayk.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/five-reasons-that-prevent-my-school-from-adopting-open-source-from-a-non-western-perspective/#comment-3128 Jose Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:39:12 +0000 http://alternativenayk.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/five-reasons-that-prevent-my-school-from-adopting-open-source-from-a-non-western-perspective/#comment-3128 >> The business case for sticking with M$ is overwhelming, why switch to a secure free environment with free software when you can keep your hand in your customers wallet by charging for everything from support to software? Don't see what you are talking about. You can charge for installing and managing and customizing... FLOSS. The nontrivial licensing costs I think you are talking about go to the vendor (Microsoft). The more money that goes for someone else, the less that can go to you. >> The business case for sticking with M$ is overwhelming, why switch to a secure free environment with free software when you can keep your hand in your customers wallet by charging for everything from support to software?

Don’t see what you are talking about. You can charge for installing and managing and customizing… FLOSS. The nontrivial licensing costs I think you are talking about go to the vendor (Microsoft). The more money that goes for someone else, the less that can go to you.

]]> By: Top Posts « WordPress.com http://alternativenayk.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/five-reasons-that-prevent-my-school-from-adopting-open-source-from-a-non-western-perspective/#comment-2210 Top Posts « WordPress.com Thu, 31 May 2007 23:58:57 +0000 http://alternativenayk.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/five-reasons-that-prevent-my-school-from-adopting-open-source-from-a-non-western-perspective/#comment-2210 [...] Five reasons that prevent my ’school’ from adopting Open Source: (from a non-western per... Recently the NZ government aggressively pushed the adoption (some say too early adoption) of open source software […] [...] [...] Five reasons that prevent my ’school’ from adopting Open Source: (from a non-western per… Recently the NZ government aggressively pushed the adoption (some say too early adoption) of open source software […] [...]

]]> By: Jordan_U http://alternativenayk.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/five-reasons-that-prevent-my-school-from-adopting-open-source-from-a-non-western-perspective/#comment-2207 Jordan_U Thu, 31 May 2007 23:12:18 +0000 http://alternativenayk.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/five-reasons-that-prevent-my-school-from-adopting-open-source-from-a-non-western-perspective/#comment-2207 Sorry for jumping to the conclusion of incompetence I had not thought about the possibility that they might simply be looking at logs or browser history as mentioned before. I am interested in why you disagree with open source philosophically and also would love to help in whatever way I can with any IT problems ( although I am far from a sysadmin ) you can email me any time ( to my email provided when I submit comments ). And I will probably be a subscriber to your blog too :) Sorry for jumping to the conclusion of incompetence I had not thought about the possibility that they might simply be looking at logs or browser history as mentioned before. I am interested in why you disagree with open source philosophically and also would love to help in whatever way I can with any IT problems ( although I am far from a sysadmin ) you can email me any time ( to my email provided when I submit comments ). And I will probably be a subscriber to your blog too :)

]]> By: NAyK http://alternativenayk.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/five-reasons-that-prevent-my-school-from-adopting-open-source-from-a-non-western-perspective/#comment-2176 NAyK Thu, 31 May 2007 17:17:33 +0000 http://alternativenayk.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/five-reasons-that-prevent-my-school-from-adopting-open-source-from-a-non-western-perspective/#comment-2176 To all those who were concerned about u-tux.blogspot dot com plagiarizing my stuff. Thanks. I was amused that this person (u-tux) has even adapted my blog-site title AND tagline. Which was funny. But I can see that the site is filled with other articles as well… not just my own. Which, like Dirk Gentler suggested, looks quite serious. I wasn’t able to find a way to contact google/blogger. For copyright infringement reporting, it seems a complaint has to be in written (postal) form or fax (not email). <a href="http://www.google.com/blogger_dmca.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/blogger_dmca.html</a> Man that makes it difficult. As it turns out that the blogger tech support is really really difficult to find. And what they have is a help form that you’re expected to fill… ie. you need to be a member etc. It turns out you need to be really smart to be able to contact support, as this post suggests. :) <a href="http://blogger-tricks.blogspot.com/2006/08/how-to-contact-blogger-support.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogger-tricks.blogspot.com/2006/08/how-to-contact-blogger-support.html</a> [I guess here’s another reason why WordPress is better (?), just because I know how to contact the people who’re working on this stuff… I even know one or two by name (ie. Matt etc). ] Anyway, this is not a blogger vs wordpress post (so the above is an aside) and especially since my ‘friend’ DirkGently believes that blogspot is better! <a href="http://dirkgently.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://dirkgently.wordpress.com/</a> :) But in the context of ‘open source’ and ‘closed source’ it does make an interesting parallel! :) I guess my only fear is that this person shouldn’t accuse ME of plagiarizing “his” work or something warped like that. So I guess I’ll continue to pursue the blogger help maze a little more. :& To all those who were concerned about u-tux.blogspot dot com plagiarizing my stuff. Thanks. I was amused that this person (u-tux) has even adapted my blog-site title AND tagline. Which was funny. But I can see that the site is filled with other articles as well… not just my own. Which, like Dirk Gentler suggested, looks quite serious.

I wasn’t able to find a way to contact google/blogger. For copyright infringement reporting, it seems a complaint has to be in written (postal) form or fax (not email). http://www.google.com/blogger_dmca.html Man that makes it difficult.

As it turns out that the blogger tech support is really really difficult to find. And what they have is a help form that you’re expected to fill… ie. you need to be a member etc. It turns out you need to be really smart to be able to contact support, as this post suggests. :) http://blogger-tricks.blogspot.com/2006/08/how-to-contact-blogger-support.html

[I guess here’s another reason why WordPress is better (?), just because I know how to contact the people who’re working on this stuff… I even know one or two by name (ie. Matt etc). ]
Anyway, this is not a blogger vs wordpress post (so the above is an aside) and especially since my ‘friend’ DirkGently believes that blogspot is better! http://dirkgently.wordpress.com/ :) But in the context of ‘open source’ and ‘closed source’ it does make an interesting parallel! :)

I guess my only fear is that this person shouldn’t accuse ME of plagiarizing “his” work or something warped like that. So I guess I’ll continue to pursue the blogger help maze a little more. :&

]]> By: Dirk Gently http://alternativenayk.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/five-reasons-that-prevent-my-school-from-adopting-open-source-from-a-non-western-perspective/#comment-2172 Dirk Gently Thu, 31 May 2007 15:49:46 +0000 http://alternativenayk.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/five-reasons-that-prevent-my-school-from-adopting-open-source-from-a-non-western-perspective/#comment-2172 I just looked at the u-tux blogspot blog......it's plagiarism, passing your work off as his/her own. If I were you I'd tell them to cease and desist, and to remove ALL your content...as well as reporting them for copyright theft to Blogspot. They don't restrict themselves to one article....they have several of yours when I glanced down the list. It is no accident or script, this is manually done and intentional. I found a blog there a while back which was posting 35 new entries per day...ALL paragraphs from Digg etc......everything created by other people. A few comments got my stuff removed......yours is MUCH more serious and malicious than mine was. I just looked at the u-tux blogspot blog……it’s plagiarism, passing your work off as his/her own. If I were you I’d tell them to cease and desist, and to remove ALL your content…as well as reporting them for copyright theft to Blogspot.

They don’t restrict themselves to one article….they have several of yours when I glanced down the list. It is no accident or script, this is manually done and intentional.

I found a blog there a while back which was posting 35 new entries per day…ALL paragraphs from Digg etc……everything created by other people. A few comments got my stuff removed……yours is MUCH more serious and malicious than mine was.

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